'sup guys ?
i'm musing on getting a frog.
now i don't want a white's or something that is like that.
i would like something that has a similar shape to a dart frog, without the difficult setup and expensive everything
i would also like to to live well at room temperature or it can be heated by a heat mat.
i would like a frog with nice colours.

any ideas?
thanks

I don't know a lot about phibs so I can only offer these 3 suggestions and not one matches your critera but..............

Ornate horned frog
Fire bellied toads
Tiger Salamander.

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How about these....



golden sedge/reed frogs.....easy to keep, hardy, colourful, small, but..........noisy !!

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thanks mate. i like fbt's but they're main stream lol.

nice one. do you know hiw much cb males go for?
noisy is good

If i remember right i think ours were £25-£30 each....may be even cheaper over there

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you could also look at reed frogs? they can come in some interesting colours. or clown treefrogs. usually go for about 50 each

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reed frogs. good idea
£50 is a bit out of my price range lol.
i can afford to do a nice setup however

Go for the frog that is posted by Buddyboy, colorful one and small, though its noisy but its still the best one for you to choose.

I'm currently trying to find a good home for a frog that I rescued as a newly morphed froglet. He's a Green Cascade Frog (Odorrana(Rana) livida) and is happy to live in a planted viv at room temperature or a paludarium with a small aquarium heater.

It's certainly a rarity and given the fact that it needs plenty of small live foods would make a great way to get an insight into keeping dartfrogs. I reckon it'll grow to around 8cm and need a 60cm viv to avoid bumping his nose.

It actually came in to the country as a tadpole in a batch of tropical fish, so although not stricty CB, it's a calm steady frog for a Ranid. Feeding very well on small crickets and hydei fruit flies and will be much easier to feed once grown on a bit. Let me know if it appeals - I'm more than happy to give him away to someone who'll appreciate him.

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