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I would of thought that melanism would offer an advantage over normal colouration. Surely during breeding they would be quicker off the mark to locate a mate and breed, also as you note in theory you would think they would be more successful while gravid.
There seems to be quite a few populations of melanistic reptiles where they out number normals. It's interesting to see that the wild observations don't support my thoughts though
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I've not read up on this subject much, nor kept many melanistic animals (the only one I do have at the moment is a melanistic Caspian Whip Snake) but I can offer a couple of my own observations on wild melanistic adders.
I'm fortunate to walk past a heath every day on my way home from work which has a fairly sizeable population of adders, so in the Spring and Summer I can drop by in the afternoons and spend hours watching them. The fact that these snakes are so tolerant of human proximity is amazing, as you can walk right up to them, sit down a few feet away and they will not move - it makes finding and watching them very easy, plus they tend to inhabit specific territories, so you can usually be certain which snakes wil be where at any given time (unless another snake moves in and takes over the territory, which seems quite common in Spring when the males are roving around looking for prime locations - i.e. those with females). There is one melanistic adder that is always in the same place and I've noticed its behaviour is quite different to that of the "normal" coloured animals. For one thing, it is markedly "shyer" than the normals, which will happily let me approach to within several feet without budging. This one tends to "flush" as soon as it sees you, escaping quickly into deep cover. Also, while the others spend much longer basking, this one rarely basks in the open, but rather remains cryptic, tending to skulk around the bases of bushes and beneath plants. However, it will return much more frequently to bask - I can only attribute this to it "warming up" much more rapidly in the sun, and the "cooling down" just as quickly when it starts exploring, this needing to return more frequently, but needing less time exposed. On a similar note, I also notice this animal is active much later than the others, often remaining out to bask half an hour to several hours after the others are no longer visible in the late afternoon and early evening. It was also the last snake I saw this autumn, so it would seem it was able to remain out and about longer than the normal snakes. This specimen is a male but it is the longest male I have seen on the reserve (it was so big I thought it had to be a female when I first saw it) so that supports Sue's observation of melanistic animals tending to be slightly larger. Just a few observations as food for thought! Regards, Francis
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very interesting read. something to add to the notes on temperament. i was in a pet shop a few years back and the owner got out an albino black rat snake for me to hold which was incredibly placid and had no inclination to bite. up until this point i had heard that black rats had a bad rep so started speaking to the owner who said that he felt the reputation was quite undeserved, but that he had noticed over the years that the young albino black rats were generally calmer than the normals.
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After seeing a very dark (poss melanistic) adder this year I done a bit of googling about them. What I found matches your conclusions in your post. Aparently there is site near me where there are more melanistic adders than the classic coloured ones. So from that I take it they are breeding more successfully than the coloured individuals. Going to try and visit the site in the spring so hopefully I will see some more for myself.
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There has been a bit of research into the effects of melanism within snake populations, I'm most familiar with the adder literature. Luiselli has a good paper from 1992 investigating the differences in reproductive success, I think there were also some studies from the Scandinavian populations (see Andren or Nilson I would guess). Sorry I can't be more helpful at the moment, I'm just on my way out!
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