I found this mind blowingly interesting. What are your thoughts ?

Fibonacci numbers - The Fingerprint of God | quietube

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Fascinating video Sue.

Very interesting video, thanks for posting

Thank you for the replies. How do the rest of you see this, does it point to a brilliant maths brain at work in the universe ?

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i dont see it as the work of a creator, but more so a a natural mathematical occourance.

Take the honey bee for example, why do they make hexagon shaped honeycomb, answer is it gives them maximum use of space with the least work involved. Something quite fascinating though. if you were to measure honeycomb you would find that those hexagons angles are a perfect 60 degrees.

All very interesting stuff, like reading these kind of threads

Thank you for your reply, but at what point did the bees all decide to build like that - how did they arrive at such a precise shape ? Did they do it by trial and error, noting the different results each year, or were they designed that way by an engineer ?

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A good question, it may have happen due to evolution, but just like the spider they may be sort of pre programmed.
A spider is born with the ability to spin a web, it was never tought but it knows anyway.

I am not a religeous guy, so i do not belive in a creator.
I belive that the things that occour in nature are the most efficient way to do something.

Most all animals exibit such behaviours or characteristics. mostly due to evolution.

There are some animals that are naturally perfect at what they do, sharks, crocs, etc, these animals never evolved due to that.
Snakes however evolved from lizards and became perfect predators.

There are many instances in nature that follow mathematical principles. Again i dont belive this is the work of a creator but more our way of explaining them.

Who programmed the spider?

I found this video a while ago concerning mathematical principles relating to creation. Several quotes from Scientists given as well

I'm sorry, but that's the most profound bastardisation of science and misrepresentation of facts I've seen in a while. Even when it wasn't out of date. Huge misunderstanding of ancestry right there. Misunderstanding of mathematics. I'd like to avoid pointing out every flaw for the sake of it, but happy to explain any particular bits you find poignant.

I have no problem with people believing what they want, but that video is simply wrong.

As for your first question, no one programmed the spider, but spiders that possessed more effective web-making behaviour are the ones that had more viable offspring. These advantageous 'mutations' accumulate to produce a spider that appears to be designed at first glance.

Genes coding for behaviour are pretty mind-boggling to imagine, but do exist (particularly well studied in bees).

As for maths in nature, natural selection should be expected to exploit mathematical truths just as any engineer should. It does not require the need to invoke a creator.

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