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Old 18-05-2011, 10:50 PM
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what are your veiws on children doing sats and exams at young ages?

heres a lil story of why i think its wrong to young!
i took my son of 7 into school the other day and explained he is getting very upset and very stressed out and not wanting to come into school, now he does have special needs and behaviour problems also finds it hard to have more than 1 friend so i thought it could of been down to this, but i was then told from his teacher that infact they are having there sats and he was finding it hard but didn't feel the need to tell the parents as it adds stress to the children if they are aware of this, to which i think is wrong especially if a child has special needs and where my son has global learning delay due to his deafness he needs extra support in area's like this, also he can't cope to well to change so if they had told us we could of prepared him for this and would not had to put up with the hassle we have been, now they are our children and we have a right to know what our children are doing at school don't we?
i have heard so many stories aswell of teenagers commiting suicide over exams etc that wasn't there a point where they were actually going to apolish exams for young children because of this, so what happened to that?
I can understanding doing some tests on children to test what stage they are at but all this stress and hassle all at one point surely they can make it less stressful for them at least!
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I think they should do away with most of these exams as they are totally unnecessary and they are more to do with a schools place on some league table than they are about how well the child is doing. My ten year old nephew has just been through this with a week of sats tests and some of these were not even actual tests, they were mocks.

Another thing they should stop doing is piling the kids up with endless homework. My niece came and stayed with me for the weekend and we were meant to be going out but she had so much homework that we never went anywhere and I had to spend the weekend helping her do it all and this was just a normal weekend. My sister told me that she would come home from school go up to her room and she would be there until ten or eleven at night doing homework and this was every night and all weekend as well. Even the school holidays were crammed full of it. My niece had no time to go out and see friends and family or anything else. Her life was one long round of school work and a lot of that was down to all the damned exams. There were times when she was so sick of it that she would sit and cry over a silly piece of homework that she did not understand. She often had to write essays of several pages long and had only one or two nights to do then in and she would be kept in detention if this homework was not done. My sister even had a blazing row up the school one day because they kept my niece in detention because of a piece of homework she had not done, the reason she had not done it was because she had to go to the dentist but this was not considered a good enough reason. The pressure these kids are put under now is nothing short of criminal.

Look at it another way. All those hours every day doing school work is wrong at the best of times and they would not be allowed to have a job and work all those hours so how is it schools can make kids work all those hours and get away with it. What are the teachers doing that they need to give the kids so much homework in the first place. For years my niece never had a social life because of all the homework and she was always tired and stressed out.

This is so unfair. At an age when they should be enjoying life they are not because of piles of homework and endless exams.

They tried giving us lot homework when i went to school. None of us bothered doing it and we all told the teacher that the time after school was our time and not the schools. We were never issued with any more homework.
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SATS exams are vital, because it will give teachers an idea of the level the child is learning at to prepare them for their GCSE's (the most important exams they will ever have to sit).

Year nine SATS are now non-existant, it's now only year six pupils who are doing them. While exams are stressful (I was stressed to the max when sitting mine), I do believe that more support should be given to those who suffer from learning disabilities, and of course, parents should be made aware of the exams.
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I agree about homework aswell I refused for my son to do half of it I said he does enough at school home is a place where he relaxes, the school has gave up saying about it now, all I let him do is reading books and spellings, and James u got that wrong about year 6's doing exams in primary schools my son is 7 and year 2 so it's not just year 6, do u also find that schools trips are well expensive mesons school asked 18 to go to a zoo that he gets into free and so a career for him cuz of disabilitys I said I ain't paying it but will pay towards seat of coach, also now want 22 to visit a boat what a joke I said I ain't paying it il keep him off they would be making over a grand on this trip does not cost that for coach and to get on a boat, now they r paying it lol
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SATS exams are vital, because it will give teachers an idea of the level the child is learning at to prepare them for their GCSE's (the most important exams they will ever have to sit).
Didnt loads of schools boycott them becasue the teachers felt they achieve nothing but putting unnecasary pressure on the kids? (i forget the name of the school regulatory body but i know many schools dropped or threatend to drop the exams last year knowing they would be in trouble for doing so)

I would be worried if my kids teachers need an exam to know what level of learning they are at tbh, thats the teachers job surely?

That said, i dont think its thats big of a deal tbh, being dragged to scotland and back on school nights will harm there education more imho, not that that is any of my business but it has been posted more than once on open forums.
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I think they should do the tests, i did loads when i was at school, never stressed me out. A test is a test, it helps teachers understand where each pupil is at, and what set they should be put into or if they need extra work on certain subjects etc. Mock tests are also good as they are good practice for when the real exams need to be taken, so that when GCSE's and A levels come around they are used to sitting exams so it's not such a big deal.
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Also the jobs these days don't give a crap about exam grades etc
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Also the jobs these days don't give a crap about exam grades etc

Uni does though, and so do many higher paid job opportunitys.
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I've just wrote a bloody essay, then my internet died, so, I'm not writing that again, however:

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I agree about homework aswell I refused for my son to do half of it I said he does enough at school home is a place where he relaxes, the school has gave up saying about it now, all I let him do is reading books and spellings, and James u got that wrong about year 6's doing exams in primary schools my son is 7 and year 2 so it's not just year 6, do u also find that schools trips are well expensive mesons school asked 18 to go to a zoo that he gets into free and so a career for him cuz of disabilitys I said I ain't paying it but will pay towards seat of coach, also now want 22 to visit a boat what a joke I said I ain't paying it il keep him off they would be making over a grand on this trip does not cost that for coach and to get on a boat, now they r paying it lol
I wouldn't say I was wrong, I base this on what happens here. I agree that at year 2, they shouldn't be doing SATS.

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Didnt loads of schools boycott them becasue the teachers felt they achieve nothing but putting unnecasary pressure on the kids? (i forget the name of the school regulatory body but i know many schools dropped or threatend to drop the exams last year knowing they would be in trouble for doing so)

I would be worried if my kids teachers need an exam to know what level of learning they are at tbh, thats the teachers job surely?

That said, i dont think its thats big of a deal tbh, being dragged to scotland and back on school nights will harm there education more imho, not that that is any of my business but it has been posted more than once on open forums.
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I think they should do the tests, i did loads when i was at school, never stressed me out. A test is a test, it helps teachers understand where each pupil is at, and what set they should be put into or if they need extra work on certain subjects etc. Mock tests are also good as they are good practice for when the real exams need to be taken, so that when GCSE's and A levels come around they are used to sitting exams so it's not such a big deal.

What Niall said, Dave.

Without exams, it's impossible to accurately know how well the pupils are doing.
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I wouldn't say I was wrong, I base this on what happens here. I agree that at year 2, they shouldn't be doing SATS.









What Niall said, Dave.

Without exams, it's impossible to accurately know how well the pupils are doing.
Younger children should not be put through the stress of sats. Some children would find these tests more stressful than others, there are many reasons why this is so.

If a teacher can not tell through day to day observation who is doing well and who is falling behind then they are not a very good teacher. This must play its part and not just relying on tests to tell them how well each pupil is doing. A test can only tell the teacher how well that child did in that test. It does not give a good overview of that pupil where day to day observation can.

A test may tell the teacher that a certain child is not doing well in that subject but it will not tell them why and the why can be very important and could even be something that could be resolved. How many teachers have the time, or can be bothered to go into this side of it and deal with the 'why' of it, yet this is at the heart of good teaching.

After all, a stressed out child will not learn as much as a relaxed, happy child and all children should have the right to be relaxed, happy and have the best education.
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