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Old 28-02-2011, 09:31 AM
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Well if I'm honest Sweetie, I prefer Elaphe carinata, I'm not much of a one for Common Names, by using the scientific name there can never be any confusion as to the species you are referring to, unlike the use of vernacular names where several snakes might be known by the same one.


Yup, but not everybody knows Scientific names.
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My 3 adults were all WC. All ate fine though one of them would only eat chicks.
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Hi, I'm sorry if this is a really stupid question to ask but if anyone can tell me more about the colour phases / ontogenetical changes that would be absolutely brilliant.

I find this colour phase -

absolutely breath taking - is this only a juvenile colouration or does a hypo version exist in adults?

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That very much is immunity, yes, I agree. I didn't know that about B. asper and C. clelia (I read the Absract as I ain't paying for the paper!)


Being highly resistant, and being immune are different things. Immunity means you suffer NO effects what-so-ever, King Cobras, and other species have been witnessed with blisters. Just because one species has evolved "immunity", doesn't mean they all have, or all need to. It really depends on the snake itself, and whether it needs to.
I didn't reply to this at the time as didn't want to go off topic but You might want to read the dictionary definition of immunity again or improve your comprehension skills!

Immunity doesn't mean 'NO effects what-so-ever'; it can mean 'only localised effects where otherwise death would occur'.

I didn't ask if all species have immunity to venom - I asked a very specific question about a species that you've told me eats King Cobras - I think having a diet of venemous snakes might be a 'needs immunity' situation at least in my book!

It's OK to say 'Actually, I'm sorry, I can't answer your question', and point me in the direction of where you found out about Carinata & King cobras. If you join a good academic institution e.g. Uni then you'd have access to these papers for free (or more accurately at no additional cost!).

I'm not sure it's OK to say that I'm wrong when in fact you've agreed that I'm correct - especially when my post is backed up with evidence rather than just opinion or conjecture!!!

If anyone else has any ponderings, musings or something they can point me towards on resistance to venom in snake-eating snakes then I would be extremely grateful

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I was just watching SnakeBytesTV and watched Chewy get bit in the lip by a King Ratsnake. It happens around 6:50

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Just a quick reply for now as I'm suppose to be working LOL - Here is some eye candy for you to feast your eyes on - there are lots more morphs out there including Hypo.

The photo you posted is a young adult and not a morph, they are very variable in colouration throughout their range.



Axanthic

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Hi Yellow


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Just a quick reply for now as I'm suppose to be working LOL - Here is some eye candy for you to feast your eyes on - there are lots more morphs out there including Hypo.

The photo you posted is a young adult and not a morph, they are very variable in colouration throughout their range.



Axanthic

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Unfortunately I can't see them!
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Unfortunately I can't see them!
Ditto... and I really wanna!!!!
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I was just watching SnakeBytesTV and watched Chewy get bit in the lip by a King Ratsnake. It happens around 6:50

Heheh... I love the fact that on the initial strike the snake completely ignored the hand that was touching it and went for his face...
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Well if I'm honest Sweetie, I prefer Elaphe carinata, I'm not much of a one for Common Names, by using the scientific name there can never be any confusion as to the species you are referring to, unlike the use of vernacular names where several snakes might be known by the same one.
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Hi, I'm sorry if this is a really stupid question to ask but if anyone can tell me more about the colour phases / ontogenetical changes that would be absolutely brilliant.
Have you looked at other sub-species? For example, Elaphe carinata yonaguniensis stays a lot more like that one you like than E.c.carinata. They're rare and hard to find but they are certainly out there.
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Ditto... and I really wanna!!!!
Sorry Guys, I had image hot linking enabled all fixed now (hopefully)
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